Rooij, G. J. v., Coenen, J. W., Brezinsek, S., Clever, M., Dux, R., Groth, M., Krieger, K., Marsen, S., Matthews, G. F., Meigs, A., Neu, R., Potzel, S., Rapp, J., Stamp, M. F., ASDEX Upgrade Team, & JET-EFDA Contributors (2012). Tungsten divertor erosion in all metal devices: lessons from the ITER-like wall of JET and the all tungsten ASDEX Upgrade. Talk presented at 20th International Conference on Plasma Surface Interactions 2012 (PSI 20). Aachen. 2012-05-21 - 2012-05-25.